Posts by Yan Bibiyan

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There is no doubt that Adam wasn't the first man. How do believers get around that small fact?

by jam in

using bible in determing the date of the creation of adam .

anyone in their right mind believe this to be true in today age.. don,t you think this nullify the whole bible?

the very first book.

Yan Bibiyan

James Brown, I have news for you.

You are an atheist!

That's right. According to your logic, if you are against god, you are an atheist. So in your utter rejection of Allah, Zeus, Vishnu and thousands of other gods, to the believers of those gods (who collectivelly vastly outnumber christians) you are an, gasp, Atheist.

See how it works.

Allow me to quote you:

You're out of the tower. Now its time to start using your own brain and not some charlatans.

Would you follow Ken Hovind to jail, btw? Currently serving a 10 year stint in a fed detention center....

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There is no doubt that Adam wasn't the first man. How do believers get around that small fact?

by jam in

using bible in determing the date of the creation of adam .

anyone in their right mind believe this to be true in today age.. don,t you think this nullify the whole bible?

the very first book.

Yan Bibiyan

jgnat, unless Aesop's Fables comment is tongue-in-cheek, there is a logical fallacy to contend with

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My daughter asked to be an unbaptized publisher. What do I do?

by Indian Larry in

brief background:.

i am a 3rd gen witness.

several of her friends are already baptized.

Yan Bibiyan

jgnat:

Teenagers love freedom until they find out the cost.

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My daughter asked to be an unbaptized publisher. What do I do?

by Indian Larry in

brief background:.

i am a 3rd gen witness.

several of her friends are already baptized.

Yan Bibiyan

Jesus was in his thirties when he was baptized. We are talking Jesus. Does she think he waited for a reason? Then parallel with marriage, as others have suggested. Good luck!

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How IGNORANT can you be and still be a Jehovah's Witness in GOOD standing?

by Terry in

jw
friends

as i have said many times, i did not really study jw teachings in depth until i went to prison.. i had a period from 1959 to 1967 when i---sort of----could explain things to a shallow depth.

once i entered that profound place in my head (while in federal prison) when everything got serious.....i entered a secret room, so to speak, where.

all the mysteries were hidden!.

Yan Bibiyan

Paleasse, with the automatic "apostate" label attached to any contrary to current teachings information, how can one expect old publications to even be considered "reading material"...

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Bad argument

by goddidit in

in my quest to help jws wake up i came up with this (at least i think i came up with it myself, can't be sure).. i was hoping someone could help me refine it to be as easy as possible to understand and as hard as possible to weasel out of by some semantics.. just to be clear, i'm an atheist.

this is written for the context of jw beliefs.. .

premise 1: even if a position is true, it is possible for an argument in favour of it to be a bad argument, e.g.

Yan Bibiyan

Plus, God doesn't seem that interested in trying to convert someone who had already made up their mind not to believe in God. In fact, he goes out of his way to make it even easier to believe there is no god!

Making up one's mind to not believe in god, dear Lars, is not a spur of the moment decision - like brown mustard or dijon mustard...

Very high percentage of atheists who were religious at some point had become atheists precisely because god did not bother to offer the tiniest shred of evidence in answer to their incessant prayers for clarity...

The Power of Prayer?

by Yan Bibiyan in

second child of faith-healing couple dies after no medical care .

full story -> here.

hope the wackos get some jail time this time around.. .

Yan Bibiyan

Second child of faith-healing couple dies after no medical care

Full Story -> here

Hope the wackos get some jail time this time around.

JWs shoudl be held to no lesser of a standard regarding their "blood policy"

ETA - Noteworthy quote:

"Defense attorneys argued that their clients did not know how sick the child was, and their beliefs played no role in their decision."

M-m-m-kay

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They just won't stop

by Anony Mous in

so ~2 years ago i left the jw cult, i had an exit talk with the elders with the reasons why and they couldn't find a reason to df me.

been happy ever since even though i went through a difficult custody and now divorce proceedings.

now all of a sudden they want to df me.

Yan Bibiyan

Anony, this is bull$hit, man...sorry to hear about it.

You can always pull the "suicide" move. Of course, do not DO anything, just tell them that sticking their noses in your business is about to push you over the edge...

May seem cowardly, but their own instructions call for them to back off in such cases....

On the other hand, it may not be such a great idea if you tink word will get around and your family will get a wind that you want "to harm yourself"...

I wish there was a Staples button to solve the mess those insensitive a$$es are creating...

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My Meetings With Two Elders Today, "I am not a Christian and I am going to Die!"

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

hi, my time is drawing ever closer as i can no longer speak lies about the organization and all the past revisions and my sins i committed against everyone i judged while serving on judicial committees.

i lay awake at night with guilt because i ask jehovah and his son jesus christ to forgive me for being so judgemental, self assured and arrogant at certain times in my life.

i was not a prince of peace, at times i was a coward when i was first appointed because i wanted to keep all things peaceful with my peers, not with my heavenly father and saviour jesus christ.

Yan Bibiyan

Sorry for your ordeal, AA....

As to "you don't want to die" response:

"What if, brother pompous a$$hole, just what if YOU are wrong? What if?....Now go and have a good night sleep, righteous"

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are the elders waking up too?

by nowwhat? in

we have an older very faithfull elder body and whenever they talk about armegeddon or the end of this system of thiings, they always use "very near, close, soon, etc".

well on the stage one elder when talking about the great tribuation this week , he said "possibly in our lifetime" !!!

that really caught my attention and even my wife's too!

Yan Bibiyan

"possibly in our lifetime"

Jeez, don put this guy in charge of a, say, bus schedule